Ok I’m not going to post this on my main blog (kinbotes) for aesthetic reasons but I just wanted to address some of the (weirdly condescending) text posts that I’ve seen flying around in lieu of Red Dragon Con. The gist of these text posts tend to be claims that everyone at the con asked Mads the same five hannigram-related questions over and over and ignored the rest of his work/his talent as an actor. As someone who attended the con, I can safely say that that is absolute bullshit. There were two 80 minute Q&A sessions with Mads and I’d say that about six questions about Will and Hannibal’s relationship were asked in each. Most of these questions were posed eloquently and Mads gave thoughtful and nuanced answers in response. Of course, there were some inane, silly questions about fanfiction and such but those were absolutely in the minority. In any case, even the silly questions were posed in good humour, in a non-invasive manner and they clearly didn’t make Mads uncomfortable. At a con such as Red Dragon Con, which was a celebration of fan culture surrounding Hannibal as much as the show itself, it is to be expected that a few questions concerning fandom culture will be asked. As a person who has seen Mads’ filmography in its entirety and who has followed his career closely for the past three years, I found the Q&As to be illuminating and insightful. People were asking questions that I had never heard Mads answer before, concerning Hannibal and the rest of his filmography. He was praised for and asked about his work in A Royal Affair, The Green Butchers, Men and Chicken, Casino Royale, The Hunt, The Salvation, Charlie Countryman, Michael Kohlhaas and Unit 1 (to name a few) so to say that there was no genuine interest in Mads’ acting at the con is absurd. Also I find the suggestion that people behaved inappropriately around Mads to be insulting and incredibly condescending: I am a socially adept adult and I know how to behave around other adults, celebrity or no. This goes for everyone else at the con. Nobody was anything but polite and respectful towards Mads – check Starfury’s twitter if you don’t believe me. Mads said that he really enjoyed spending the weekend with us and I know that every fan in attendance had a great time so I don’t understand why certain members of the fandom are so intent on crapping in everyone else’s cornflakes.
TL;DR: the holier-than-thou attitudes of certain fans of Mads who believe that they’re the only ones who truly appreciate him as an artist and that the rest of us are just rabid, screaming hannigram fangirls, are baseless and annoying as fuck.
cosigned.
and i would also like to add that most of the q&a sessions were absolute class acts from both the side of the actors as well as the fans. in fact my absolute favourite q&a sessions were all of the ones which included Lara Jean, Katie Isabelle, Mads and Kacey who were all asked incredibly interesting and varied questions apart from a very few exceptions and who all gave insightful and relevant answers.
Now some of the quotes which are floating around tumblr seem to me to be a bit selective and to extrapolate a bit more from what was actually said than would be 100% accurate but that’s to be expected in a fan community that is deeply invested in certain answers and in no way reflects any sort of inappropriate behaviour at the con itself.
in any case, most of these inaccuracies are sure to be addressed as soon as the con video is released.
The thing is there won’t be a video of the con. I have different people who have recorded things from the Q&A, and i personally i have a a video of someone who asked a question about one of Mads’ short which was a practically a silent movie.
The mads stans weren’t there and they love to bicker about what they supposedly heard.
JUST BECAUSE THE ANSWER AND QUESTIONS WHICH ARE POPULAR ARE ABOUT HANNIGRAM DONT FUCKING MEAN EVERY BLOODY QUESTIONS OF THE Q&A WAS ABOUT HANNIGRAM AND ABOUT HANNIBAL.
Stop thinking that fannibals are mindless, screaming fans that can’t contain themselves. Mads got outside at the main fucking door to smoke for 3 days. If he had a problems with fans surrounding him, i can bloody assure you he would have smoked elsewhere, somewhere he wouldn’t have the risk of being approached.
And when he did get approached, people talked to him it was to thank him for his fucking presence, and talk about other stuff. My friend had a talk about Men & Chicken with him while they were smoking.
IF HE WAS BOTHERED HE WOULDNT HAVE LEFT THROUGH THE MAIN DOOR TO SMOKE HIS CIGS.
He even agreed to answer my tiny little thing on my thesis, but the con organizes said it wasn’t possible because of the tight schedule. (and it was one of them who asked and mads said fucking yes).
SO GET OFF YOUR MIGHTY JEALOUS ASS HIGH HORSE AND STOP BABYSITTING A 50 YEAR OLD MAN WHO FUCKING GAVE ALL HIMSELF TO THE FANS FOR 3DAYS STRAIGHT. He was exhausted, he got a cold and YET he kept a smile, and was teary at the end.
Im so done with the mads stans trying to ruin everything.
I am putting together a group preorder for S3 Hannibal on Amazon, because damn I feel you guys missing out on the extras. You pay for the cost of the set (20USD+1USD for PP fees) plus shipping to you and whatever insurance you want (cost depends on shipping method and where you are in the world.)
US Fannibals please reblog so people who need help can find this!
Nigel is king of the campus at Wakefield Academy, getting everything that he could want from the other students. But then there’s the transfer student: an underclassman that dresses like he’s 40, with the biggest eyes and softest curls Nigel has ever seen. And it’s this new student that ruins everything.
“I don’t want to see Spider-Man when I open your pants, that’s all, darling.”
“But you said you loved my underwear. You said it made you cream thinking about me in my little-”
“Yeah, your little panties but not fucking Batman pants. I don’t want to think about some spandex guy when I suck you, sweetheart.”
“I don’t understand. Why do you like my puppy print pants and not these ones?”
“It’s ok, baby.”
“Dont you like how they look?” Adam turned over on the bed and his ass rose up high. He wiggled just a little. “I like them because they’re so snug.”
Nigel swallowed and squeezed Adams ass through the soft elasticated fabric. He drew the Superhero logo to one side and sighed hard at the sight of Adams asshole.
“You can fuck me while I wear them if you want.” Adam really wanted Nigel to love every pair of pants in his collection. “I don’t mind.”
Tomorrow at 10 AM ETOct. 13TH is the moment to start voting non-stop for Hannibal to win the pre-nominations round and stick with nominations to the big voting round that starts on November.
We have done #NOMinateHannibal campaign for over a month to make them nominate Hannibal this year (they only nominated S1).
If Hannibal is pre-nominated in categories as well as if it’s not, we can vote for it to win the final round anyway.
-If is already nominated:
Push the button all day long during 10 days, there’s not such thing as too much voting in People’s Choice. Unlimited and worldwide voting.
-If we are not already nominated:
Write Hannibal IN between the options non-stop during 10 days. If they receive as much votes as if it has been, indeed, nominated, they have to accept the nomination. Process: copy and paste Hannibal – cast the vote – repeat.
Adam is a waiter at The Diner. The only reason is because he needed quick money and Beth is the owner. However, he may not need to work at The Diner after his conversation with the attractive stranger who ordered a BLT.
Note: For more Spacedogs AU’s or more Spacedogs content visit my fanfic guide! Or send prompts to me! I will also be posting this up on my Ao3, however I don’t update there as much.
and read through a butt ton of official Bryan Fuller interviews and podcasts and gathered all info on what I could about his plan in continuing Hannibal and his vision for Season 4.
HERE YOU GO:
SOURCES:
Vulture TV Podcast: A Candlelit Discussion of “Hannibal” Plus “Show Me A Hero”
“And (Bryan) was telling me in the context of the possibility that there might be a fourth season, ‘cause I wanna know where would this thing go. And the answer is, according to him, somewhere in the vicinity of that Tattler story that described them as Murder Husbands. Like, they would be basically traveling around Europe together, getting into adventures.”
Digital Spy: Bryan Fuller opens up on Hannibal’s axing and plans for season 4
“A potential fourth season of Hannibal would, Fuller revealed, reinvent the dynamic between Will and Hannibal (Mads Mikkelsen) “in a huge way” – he bills it as a reinvention of the entire series. “Bryan described how a prospective fourth season might play out – or feature film, whatever it might be at this stage – and it was such a different place for them to go,” Dancy said. “I thought it sounded fascinating – an amazing inversion and almost a return to the first season, but a new kind of storytelling.”
TV INSIDER: Hannibal Finale: Bryan Fuller Reveals Will and Hannibal’s Fate…And Explains That Chilling Last Dinner Scene
“Will and Hannibal, who have talked about murder and murdering separately, now are doing it together. That felt like it was the evolution of their relationship, that in this moment they would become the murder husbands of fanfic lore”
The Hollywood Reporter: ‘Hannibal’s’ Bryan Fuller on the “Obscure” Finale, Movie Hopes: “There’s a Few Ways to Go”
“There is something in the novel Hannibal that has not been done in any of the adaptations and I would love to explore that with Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter. I’m hoping that someday, whether it’s a year from now … two years from now … that we will continue to get to tell that story. I feel like if Will Graham did survive that plunge, his most interesting chapter is yet to be told.”
Vulture: Bryan Fuller on Hannibal’s ‘Cancellation’ and Where He Wants to Take the Show in Season 4
“Season four would be a reexamination and reinterpretation of the Will Graham–Hannibal Lecter relationship in a fashion that is unlike anything else we’ve done in the show. So it is, in many ways, a whole reinvention of the show, in an exciting way”
Vulture: Bryan Fuller on That Hannibal Finale and the Show’s Campy, Sensual Undertones
, you said that the theoretical season four would be a “reexamination and a reinterpretation” of their relationship, and that it was creatively terrifying to think about. Now that we’ve watched the finale, I’m curious about what it would look like.
Bryan: Well, I still want to hold that in my back pocket because Martha de Laurentiis* is trying to find financing for a feature film, and you never know two years from now if Mads [Mikkelsen] and Hugh [Dancy] have an opening in their schedules, we can shoot something again. I still want to be able to tell that story, and it’s perhaps the most fascinating chapter of Will Graham’s story yet. But I feel like if I tell you what it is, then it kind of closes a door on it in my mind.
Grantland: Q&A: Bryan Fuller on the End (for Now) of ‘Hannibal,’ the Future of Broadcast TV, and His Plans for Clarice Starling
“I’m hoping that with the finale airing, and with people discussing it, we’ll be able to have a conversation again about continuing the story, because myself and Mads Mikkelsen and Hugh Dancy are all ready, willing, and able to return to the story when the time is right.”
“There’s a portion of the novel Hannibal that has not been included in any of the adaptations of the story. That was the thrust of the potential Season 4 for us — taking this plot point from that book and reconceiving it for Will and Hannibal. I was talking with Hugh about this as we were landing the plane on Season 3. And Hugh was like, “Oh my god, that’s cool. I want to do that.” So I know Hugh wants to do it, I know Mads wants to do it, and I want to do it with them, we just have got to find the right time and the right platform to tell that story.”
TheHeyUGuys: The HeyUGuys Interview: Bryan Fuller on Hannibal Series 3 – Part 1
“It felt like we had to s–t or get off the pot, ultimately, because there had been so much going on between these two men that when Will asks, “Is Hannibal Lecter in love with me?” it is very much about death and the romance between these two men. There is a quality to connections that go above and beyond sexuality. You can have this intimate connection with somebody that then causes you to wonder where the lines of your own sexuality are. And we didn’t quite broach the sexuality. It was certainly suggested, but the love is absolutely on the table. There is love between these two men, and confusion between these two men. We had to articulate it, and the idea for a [potential] Season 4 was an interesting continuation of that, as well as a subversion of it at the same time. So it’s strange to look at [this week’s episode] as a finale, because part of me believes that the most interesting chapter of Will Graham’s story is yet to be told.”
Variety: ‘Hannibal’ Finale Postmortem: Bryan Fuller Breaks Down That Bloody Ending and Talks Revival Chances
“It certainly was going to be a part of season four, and I actually was really excited about exploring the Margot/Alana relationship and how they were going to dismantle all of the Verger slaughterhouses and turn them humane. She was going to completely undo the evils of her family with Alana, like a Joan Crawford sitting at PepsiCo’s table saying “don’t f–k with me, fellas.” I was really excited about that story for Alana and Margot and seeing more of them, and also seeing what it would be like for them to realize that Hannibal might be coming back into their orbit.”
(About the end scene with Bedelia at the dinner table) “The intention was Hannibal survived”
“THERE ARE THREE PLACE SETTINGS AT THE TABLE”
“There was so much in Season 4 that was going to include Robertus, and Lady Murasaki and Chiyoh was going to return”
International Business Times: ‘Hannibal’ Season 4: Bryan Fuller Says Lee Pace Would Be His Choice For Buffalo Bill, Almost Played Francis Dolarhyde [VIDEO]
“I would love to work with Bryan on anything – I think he’s a rare talent- so it would be lovely if something worked out. But there’s no immediate plans.”
“I love David Tennant, I think he’s a wonderful talent and I’ve been dying to work with him for many years now, so one way or another it’s going to happen.”
Inquisitr: Hannibal’ Showrunner Bryan Fuller Envisions ‘Dark Comedic’ Role For David Bowie
“We’ve had several conversations with his people and the feedback is always that David loves that we’re approaching him and to keep approaching, and hopefully the stars will align.”
Hannibal Finale Post Mortem: Bryan Fuller on Will/Lecter Love, Bedelia’s Last Supper, That Siouxsie Sioux Jam
“By coming back in and seeing Bedelia at a dinner table being served her own leg, grabbing a fork and hiding it under the table and preparing to stab it in the neck of the next person who comes into the room, that’s a great way to tell the audience, “Yes, we have told you completion to this story, but who is serving Bedelia that leg? Is it Hannibal? Did he survive? Is it Uncle Robert is, and is David Bowie behind that curtain? Who’s serving her the leg?”
(Fuller later confirmed in the Dinner Party Show interview listed above that it was in fact Hannibal who cooked Bedelia’s leg)
An Interesting bit about Chilton that I ran into:
“Let’s just keep him alive, so if we ever do Silence of the Lambs years from now, with the success of skin grafts, we’ll see a Dr. Chilton that is still as feisty as ever.”
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST THIS INSPIRING QUOTE FROM BRYAN
“It’s not over until I’m dead, as far as I’m concerned,”